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Re: New Non-BOSS Pedals

Post by fuzzbuzzfuzz » Tue Mar 18, 2025 2:25 am

A curious case here, for a would-be pedal sleuth. And I do love a good puzzle to chew over.

In the last month or so I've played "Vintage Fuzz Roulette", a particularly expensive risk laden activity involving spending your hard-earned money acquiring something from the past that is possibly "mojo magic" or "absolute nightmare garbage"! 
The Japanese brand/manufacturer ELK is not particularly delved into history wise and in recent years has for the most part gained attention via the ELK Big Muff Sustainar, a copy Triangle Big Muff with some changes. That Muff-copy unit has gained attention due to its use by Wata, guitarist from BORIS, a Japanese noise rock(?) group.  A reissue in the form of the Earthquaker Hizumatus, and some others from Muff makers has followed. Originals are in the region of $500-$700, variously named on the Muff theme. 

Since I have other ELK units, I've picked up what I can but the Muff, due to price, eluded me. Until last month when two came up at a more reasonable cost. Acquired, both quite different, Ying and Yang.

And finally, the specific BORIS font/graphic version popped up for a sale a few weeks ago. I watched, reviewed the comments. "No, we can't show the insides, because it is already packed". Hmm...how convenient! I thought. It sold and I forgot about it. To my surprise, a week later, it's back up on auction for half the price. "Junk", "I can't fix" it. Well, "in for a penny, in for a pound" as we Brits say. Popped in a bid, forgot about it.....and in the morning I had won....

And I laughed ;)

It was either worst case, an empty box, Second - not what it seemed, or best-case scenario genuine but needed a fix.
Arrived last night, popped open the back, and this is what I saw..and heard...

Fascinating. It's clearly not the original circuit. But it's also a circuit that seems familiar, yet I can't put my finger on what it is exactly. To be fair I haven't sat down and checked component values, however it sounds very good, a crispy drive to semi fuzz/smooth distortion. There's an Op-Amp 1458 in there, an LED and a mystery silver box (cap?). Clipping diodes. But two batteries, 18v? It's not a modern PCB nor perfboard.
So, for a bit of fun, what do you think it is?
My initial guesses were some Distortion Plus variant, Kent Armstrong Blue Clipper, Boot-Leg Rock n Roll.. There were quite a few "Fuzz" pedals that used the op-amp type circuit in the 70s paired with clipping diodes.

Anyway, no real complaints, a cool box!
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Re: New Non-BOSS Pedals

Post by Pepe » Tue Mar 18, 2025 6:45 am

Maybe Laurie can shed some light on what we have here. As I already wrote at Instagram, it looks to me as if the "8D"-thing is an optocoupler and that metallic thing might be a coil, so in my book something like a filter/wah style combination. Your audio clips didn't sound af it it had an envelope filter, but maybe something like a fixed wah.
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Re: New Non-BOSS Pedals

Post by laurie » Tue Mar 18, 2025 12:01 pm

The "8D" component has the look of an optocoupler, but it is unlike anything I've ever seen, and I can't find anything that looks like it on the www. I have no idea what a opto would be doing in a circuit this simple.

The silver component has the look of a capacitor, but again, unlike anything I've seen. Can you provide pics from different angles? And a pic of the circuit trace side of the board?

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Re: New Non-BOSS Pedals

Post by fuzzbuzzfuzz » Wed Mar 19, 2025 4:26 am

Will do.

Optocoupler. Hmm, a tremolo or a compressor?

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Re: New Non-BOSS Pedals

Post by Pepe » Sat Mar 29, 2025 10:51 pm

Yesterday I received a faulty MXR Phase 45 (Script version from late 1975) that was a bit mistreated by the previous owners. I tried my best to get it back in its original state again. All in all it looks very nice, the small holes, apparently made with pliers, were used to lead a wire with a power jack out of the chassis. It has a proper battery clip again, plus the original JFETs, tantalum capacitors instead of electrolytic capacitors - and two new opamps, because the old ones were distorting for some reason. Thanks a lot again to our dear Laurie for some trouble-shooting. This unit sounds very sweet - at least through headphones. I haven't tried it through my amp yet.

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Re: New Non-BOSS Pedals

Post by bigtone23 » Sun Apr 06, 2025 7:15 pm

Picked up an MXR M87 Bass Compressor, it was like new and a really good deal, so why not? I have a 90s era Trace Elliot SMX Dual Compressor (on the big bass board) and a LM2B (on the small bass board), but figured it wouldn't hurt to have a 'modern' bass comp that's not boarded. So far, it's really nice. Sounds good, performs good...
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Also have a Behringer GDI21 on the way. It was stupid cheap, $20 shipped. It's a direct copy of the Tech21 Sansamp GT2 with the addition of an XLR output. Videos comparing it to the Sansamp result in sounding pretty much identical. I'm sure it will come in handy as soon as it's here.

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Re: New Non-BOSS Pedals

Post by The_Doc » Mon Apr 07, 2025 8:51 am

The Behringer GDI21is a really good copy of the Sansamp GT2. I have both and they are very close.

I got the Behringer for a run of open mic nights where the organisers wouldn’t allow guitar amps on stage! Each night people were asking me how I got realistic amps sounds out of ‘just a PA’ which I think is a reflection of how good it is. I’m sure you will find it handy.

It replaced my GT2 as my amp in a box for amps cr*pping out at gigs - not had to use it yet though :lol:

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Re: New Non-BOSS Pedals

Post by laurie » Mon Apr 07, 2025 12:21 pm

I recently resurrected a Dunlop JH1 wah - see these other threads:
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This is the finished pedal. I don't need another wah... but it actually sounds pretty good!

Even though I used a 3PDT replacement for the switch, I left it "original" non-true-bypass.

Work done:
  • New Hot Potz II (100k)
  • New switch
  • New battery box
  • New toe bumpers and full mechanical adjustment
  • A good clean - the amount of tape residue on the base was next-level. I think the old battery door had failed years ago and the previous owner was keeping the battery door closed with duct tape.
  • Straighten the badly bent and dinged baseplate
  • Lube all moving parts with silicone grease
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Re: New Non-BOSS Pedals

Post by laurie » Mon Apr 07, 2025 12:21 pm

The baseplate has "had a life" but it cleaned up OK.
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Re: New Non-BOSS Pedals

Post by Pepe » Mon Apr 07, 2025 12:32 pm

Nice! 8-)
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