DC-2 Dimension C modification

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DC-2 Dimension C modification

Post by Pepe » Sat Jul 06, 2019 8:58 am

This is what I posted at the StompBoxZone forum almost five years ago:

Pepe wrote:A cool forum member at sequencer.de, a German synthesizer forum has shared brand new information about modding a Behringer CC300, the BOSS CE-2 clone, so that it has more headroom, thus leading to less distorted peaks. This is from Tony Allgood at Analog Heaven:
Probably quite a few of you have a little Behringer CC300 pedal. It's their version of the Boss DC-2 Dimension C compact pedal. But there's a problem, the Behringer is very prone to distortion if you don't get the levels quite right.

The problem is caused by two things as far as I can see. Firstly, like the DC-2, the CC300 uses pre-emphasis and de-emphasis EQ to attempt to remove high frequency noise from the BBD circuitry. This boosts treble frequencies on the way in to the BBD and reduces it by an equivalent amount of the way out. However, this only works well if the majority of the audio signal that you want processed lies underneath the minimum frequency of pre-emphasis. Which may be fine if you have a guitar and play open chords, but not so good with a keyboard which can produce extremely bright sounds very high up.

So what happens if we remove all the pre-emphasis and de-emphasis circuitry. Well, the pedal does get a little noisier at the top end - you'll hear a bit more hiss but not that much more since the compander will remove much of the BBD's noise. But you'll also get a lot more headroom for the type of signals that keyboards typically generate - so the horrible nasty distortion will now become less likely.

So open the pedal up and remove the following components from the underside of the circuit board:

4n7 capacitors in locations: C67, C59 & C70
1n2 capacitors in locations: C61 & C72

Bear in mind that the CC300 is predominantly surface mount and these capacitors are very small. You can use a standard soldering iron and solder wick if you are careful.

A photograph of the section of the board with the removed capacitors can be found here:

http://www.oakleysound.com/CC300%20mod.jpg

Right the second thing is totally down to Behringer not quite copying the Boss device. They power the BBD circuitry from 5.6V and not 6.8V like the Boss. This will give a lower headroom for the audio signal through the BBDs which is not so good.

This is because Behringer have used a 78L05 in place of Roland's 78L06. Both designs use a diode in the common of the regulator which bumps up the output by around 0.6V. The 78L06 actually produces 6.2V so the Boss device will run their BBDs at approximately 6.8V.

So simply swap out IC8, the 78L05, and replace with a 78L06. IC8 can be found nestled next to the input socket. It's a standard through hole part. The 78L06 isn't particularly common but can be had from the larger suppliers.

Alternatively, you may be able to get a 78L007 from Toshiba and you can replace IC8 with this. If you do so you will need to remove the diode, D7, and replace with a small wire link.

You may wish to trim the two trimmers, VR1 and VR2. These set the BBD input bias voltage, for the left and right BBDs separately, and are set for maximum headroom. I found that even with the change in BBD supply voltage I didn't need to change them. Both should be set so that minimum distortion can be heard with an input signal of around 3V (peak to peak) triangle wave at approximately 220Hz.

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I instantly asked the sequencer.de forum member about the DC-2, because as some of you might know I have always complained about the DC-2's distortion. And that's what he asked Tony Allgood as well:
> Which caps are this on the DC-2?
4n7: C5, C51 & C52
1n2: C56 & C57
I think I'm going to try that out soon. I hope that I can finally give the DC-2 the love that it deserves. It rests in a drawer most of the time. Maybe that will change then.

I just tried this modification today. I cannot recommend it at all. It's awful and I reversed it again. The DC-2 did indeed have more headroom and less distortion with hotter signals, but every tiny bit of sound was now accompanied by clearly audible high noise.

So I have to live with the slight distortion here and there, especially with my neck pickup. One day I will try it against the DC-2W and check if the new model has less distortion.
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Re: DC-2 Dimension C modification

Post by Boogieman » Tue Jul 09, 2019 6:45 pm

Sorry to hear it did not work out. Was the audible high noise clock noise?

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Re: DC-2 Dimension C modification

Post by Pepe » Tue Jul 09, 2019 8:03 pm

No, I doubt that it was clock noise. Clock noise had resulted in ticking sounds, or am I wrong? It was a constant noise floor that became louder with increased input signal volume and only vanished when I muted the strings.
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Re: DC-2 Dimension C modification

Post by Boogieman » Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:42 am

If the noise is continuous, then it is not clock noise from the BBD chips.

I have both the original DC-2 and the Behringer ones (both the CC-300 and the CD-400, which is a DC-3 clone). Just now I had tried a few guitars with either the DC-2 or the CC-300. The Behringer one was easy to become noisy, but not so much with the DC-2. I did not bother to take the CD-400 out to try. That thing was a major tone-sucker with a volume drop problem when engaged. I think I left it somewhere in the house to rot, along with my Boss AW-2.

Perhaps your guitar has hot PUs? FWIW, my electric guitars at home are all fitted with low or medium output PUs. I do have one at my rehearsal space that has a very hot PU (an old Kramer from the spandex era with a Seymour Duncan SH-5 in the bridge position). I will try to test it next time I go jamming.

Analogue Heaven........ wow, I did not know it still exists. I used to be a text-only mailing list subscriber back in the '90s for several years (Hyperreal was the domain name, IIRC).

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Re: DC-2 Dimension C modification

Post by Pepe » Wed Jul 10, 2019 5:40 am

My Japanese Fender Stratocaster from the mid/late '80s has pickups with rather medium output. Definitely not hot pickups. I can either turn down the volume knob a bit, but playing a bit more softly helps as well.
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