JC-120 in need of a lot of love

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Re: JC-120 in need of a lot of love

Post by laurie » Wed Dec 11, 2024 2:45 am

The 2SC1628 high voltage driver transistor is blown. Very hard to find an original. Am on the hunt for an equivalent.

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Re: JC-120 in need of a lot of love

Post by Pepe » Wed Dec 11, 2024 6:38 am

Meh. That's really dumb that this iconic amp has been used for taking out spare parts. :|
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Re: JC-120 in need of a lot of love

Post by bigtone23 » Wed Dec 11, 2024 6:45 am

laurie wrote:
Wed Dec 11, 2024 2:33 am
Starting the board clean-up. Quite a few components missing - looks like it had been harvested for spares.
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Dang it. That's always the catch, something was used as an organ donor.
Hopefully something pops up that will work. If anyone can figure out a work around, it's you! :D

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Re: JC-120 in need of a lot of love

Post by laurie » Wed Dec 11, 2024 12:33 pm

Even more interesting... someone had jumpered the high voltage rails to the low voltage rails.

On the schematic ... B1 jumpered to B3 and B2 jumpered to B4.

It looks like someone who had no clue was "trying things" to make it work.

So far there isn't too much wrong with the channel 2 board I'm working on, just a couple of blown resistors and transistors. But I bet that's why the chorus doesn't work - the JRC4558 opamp is likely dead on the FX board.

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Re: JC-120 in need of a lot of love

Post by Pepe » Wed Dec 11, 2024 1:20 pm

laurie wrote:
Wed Dec 11, 2024 12:33 pm
Even more interesting... someone had jumpered the high voltage rails to the low voltage rails.

On the schematic ... B1 jumpered to B3 and B2 jumpered to B4.

It looks like someone who had no clue was "trying things" to make it work.
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Re: JC-120 in need of a lot of love

Post by laurie » Thu Dec 12, 2024 1:51 am

OK, I'll admit I was wrong.

The board hasn't been harvested. I found the service manual finally and the board is multi-purpose (can be used for either channel) and for the board I'm working on, those components are actually not needed.

Burned areas on the board are cleaned up and sealed with superglue (keeps the moisture out of the PCB).

There were a few resistors gone, but they are now replaced and I'm in the process of swapping all the electrolytics.

Only one transistor blown that I can find. Will order tomorrow.

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Re: JC-120 in need of a lot of love

Post by laurie » Thu Dec 12, 2024 2:35 am

I just powered it up (with only the main board in place) and checked the power supply voltages - all good. Plus checked the reverb - all good.

There is hum, so the filter capacitors are tired. Was going to replace those anyway.

Checked every active component on the board above (transistors and diodes) and apart from the one known dead one on the board, plus the dead output transistors (on the chassis), everything else tests good.

It is coming along.

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Post by Pepe » Thu Dec 12, 2024 6:34 am

Awesome! Could be a quicker repair than intially thought, eh? I hadn't thought that Roland used multi-purpose boards back in the day. But the power rail thing was not stock, I suppose?
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Re: JC-120 in need of a lot of love

Post by laurie » Thu Dec 12, 2024 12:36 pm

The power rail jumpers are definitely from someone trying a repair. I think maybe they tried to power the whole board with the 14-0-14 low voltage supply, to help faultfinding.

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Re: JC-120 in need of a lot of love

Post by laurie » Thu Dec 12, 2024 11:06 pm

Something interesting... here is a control that is clearly factory installed, but doesn't appear on any schematic, and is not labeled on the chassis.

I appears to be part of the bias circuit for the BBD drive for the chorus. I won't know until i pull the boards to do the capacitor swap and can trace the circuit.
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